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Hello hockey friends and families around the world, and welcome to another edition of our Kids Play Hockey.
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This is a great one.
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Hey, Leigh, I was curious if you all could talk about hockey routines for practice and games and how, at a young age, at the might and squirt level.
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Sometimes, if not all of the times, the responsibility of preparation falls on the parents.
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And when is it an appropriate age to start giving some of that responsibility to the kid?
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Things like do you have all of the jerseys that are needed and do you know what color you're supposed to be wearing?
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Do you have everything in your bag and is it clean?
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Do you have everything you need for practice?
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What time do you have to be at practice?
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Do you have your water bottles?
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Small things like that.
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That are topics that parents are usually running through their brain on a pretty regular basis to make sure their child is prepared.
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But when do we give that over to the kid to say, OK, you're going to start taking responsibility for some of these things?
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It is very clear that hockey players at an older age have an incredible work, ethic and respect for the people that they are working with.
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I see it in the way that they operate in the professional world in their communities, and I'd love to know at what age that starts.
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When do you start taking the responsibility off yourself as a parent and start to give it to your player.
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So that's a great question and I think we'd love to talk about, because it happens at every different level of our game right when the first day we get to the rink to the last day, our kids carry their bags in and leave the game of hockey.
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I'm going to start with this First off, matt.
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Great question.
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Mike, I've gone through seven water bottles this year.
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Somehow we lost a jersey that we played in that game.
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I'm hoping that's going to turn up in someone's bag.
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The daily grind of getting them to take their gear out of the bag to dry off or get it in the bag to get ready to go, the fight that happens every time.
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I say it's time to go not every time, but a lot of times it's the time to go and just having them have to transition out.
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Mike, I think I'm reaching the breaking point with it.
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When I started doing this journey, what I did was I walked them through it, like I showed them how to take it out.
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I really kind of pushed them almost to take it out.
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Then it kind of got to a point where it was more trouble than it was worth for me keeping them younger at this age.
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I started doing it myself a little bit just because I didn't want to have the argument.
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We all get there as parents sometimes.
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Now I've reached the breaking point where I've kind of had enough.
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I've gotten mentally to the point of and this is a funny one, mike, because I think you told me this was going to happen of, hey, if you forget something, you forgot something, I'm not changing it.
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I'm going to remind everybody listening One of my players is a goalie.
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If he forgets something, the whole team gets let down.
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And again with my daughter, I think she's learning from him a bit.
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But their ability to lose stuff is a frustration that I know a lot of you listening have.
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I am going to share some of the things I've done that have worked, but can we just take a moment for all the hockey parents out there and all the water bottles and socks and jerseys and elbow pads and left the gloves that have been lost to the game of hockey over the years?
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Mike.
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I would not always say that I fall from the category of.
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You've got to be responsible for your equipment and you need to make sure that your bag is packed and unpacked and all the different things you need.
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As your kids get older too, it gets even more complex.
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It gets to be like okay, what pregame meal are you bringing?
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What postgame meal do you need to have?
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What kind of protein shake do you want to have?
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What kind of snacks do you want to have?
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Because we're not stopping a Taco Bell or Chipotle after practice at 11.30 at night.
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The only thing I can say is routines are really so important in this aspect.
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We think what the question really came about is when should we start enforcing those routines?
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That being said, I just recently went to a tournament and had a humbly text.
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My wife that there might be something at the house that she might have to bring up with her because I forgot of my overnight bag, yelling at my son to remember his overnight bag, and then I'll get the.
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Well, how old are you text, if you're old enough to play.
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I used to say this about the kids If you're old enough to play, you're old enough to be responsible for some of the things you play with, Like if you forget your stick in the rink or you forget your water bottle on the bench think about a stick.
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You leave a stick in the rink.
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It's a $200 investment.
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$250 for most people.
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That's a lot of money.
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Water bottles are $8 a piece.
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I mean it's not cheap.
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It's not like it's a free paper cup.
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So it all depends on.
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I think to me certainly, age is.
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We could talk about this in the segments of age and what responsibilities players should have.
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But ultimately a lot of it is about routine.
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It's about just like our regular routine, right, getting ready for school in the morning, getting ready for hockey and leaving the hockey rink.
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I can't tell you as a coach, so one of these I do as a coach, good or bad, or enabling or not, I am the last person that leaves the rink and I go in the locker room.
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That's the time I'm cleaning it up, picking up the tape and whatever.
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You know the.
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My new favorite is the cut ends of the tape stick from now.
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The kids you know taping the toe of the blade and now they cut the ends off and the ends just lay there on the ground.
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So that's my new.
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You know that's.
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Those are hard to pick up, so we throw those.
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Those get thrown away.
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Lockroom is spotless when we leave and there's no doubt in my mind.
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I leave you know on the group text like who sneakers are these?
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Whose t-shirt is this?
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Whose stick is this?
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We get those too.
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Left the mouth guard.
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These are 16 year old men, so you know, I mean, I think it's, it's.
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It all depends on you know, and a lot of me says, well, if you allow it to continue to happen and you enable this, then of course it's going to keep happening, right, but I don't know what, a, what?
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A seven year old, I don't know.
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I think there needs to be a lot.
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I think there needs to be a lot of teaching and handholding and, and you know, there's, there's a lot of, there's a lot of I don't know what you call it, like the functioning of their brain, that that isn't to do some of that.
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Like you said, let's kind of break this down, cause I think I have my answer to this.
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I mean, I'm mega-looted to it and once you get to kind of the Bannum Midget and Up ages, it's on them.
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They, they should absolutely want to do it Right, cause there is a point, there's like a breaking point, where you're so involved in the game that it becomes personal how your routine is.
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And again, we should also say this, mike look, there is a big difference between hey, I forgot something which happens once in a while, and every week I'm forgetting the same thing.
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All right, so, like you know, I can forgive.
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Hey, I've, dad, I left my glove, my kid's 18, I left my glove at home.
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I never do that.
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It just it was a freak thing that that that can happen.
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All right, happens to all of us, as you just said.
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Now, again, if there's no responsibility or accountability on the kid and they keep forgetting to put something on or bring something in, which is what I'm dealing with right now, that's where the let's just say that the teapot starts to boil.
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All right, so this is what I've found.
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And then, mike, you know, I kind of want you to continue this because, again, I'm only hitting the, the squirt age here.
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But my attitude, I found, is this when, when the kids are Adams or mites, it's on me to teach them this is what you need to bring, all right, because they don't really know for a little bit.
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Right, eventually they do, but it's like okay, do you have your skates, do you have your shingards, do you have?
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Like?
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You have to kind of walk through that checklist with them.
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I said in a previous episode, something that really worked for us was I had my son and daughter actually create their own checklists, so they had the accountability of that, and that really really helped.
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Right, I didn't tell them after a while.
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I was like what do you need to bring to the game Now?
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Again, when my daughter was six or just turned seven, she didn't know that the first 20 times she was on the ice she was brand new, but now she does.
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So when she had the accountability, I had her make a list and now they check that list when they pack their bags, keeping in mind too, like sometimes the schedule doesn't allow for them to pack their bags and we might get home late one night.
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They have it.
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The next day they get to get to school.
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So I don't I don't mind packing their bag in that scenario.
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It helps my wife out, you know, it helps with the travel.
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So I think Adam's and might is an educational time, but I think it's very important to the listeners, in my opinion, mike, before we go on a squirt, that you at least explain to the kids.
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They need to know what's supposed to be in the bag, maybe what's not supposed to be in the bag, what needs to come out of the bag, and then the routine of you need to air your equipment out, okay, and then you need to put it back Right.
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I think that's a good stepping stone, but I don't think at the might level, after having gone through it now, it's a fully accountable time period for the kids.
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Yet that's just my opinion, but it better be darn close.
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Yeah, well, it's the head, shoulders, knees and toes game, right, I think, if you can do that, it's your five year old, right?
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And I did this with my kids and I've actually you know, I know I sound a little crazy here but I used to do this with our eight you kids and this was like a seminar for the parents and the kids together up in the lobby, like, okay, we're going to have this is our game, we're going to, we're going to get dressed and undressed, and as you get undressed, you're going to be thinking of being dressed, right?
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So if you have a routine listen, if you, if your routine is you come home and you dump your bag in the garage and then you go to bed.
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Most likely, like, here's my issue with that is that when you go home and you have an organized area and you put your stuff in that organized area, you immediately know you've left your elbow pad at the rink.
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And then you text the group chat hey, who has my son's elbow pad?
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He was sitting next to Johnny, and then Johnny says I have three elbow pads, you know.
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And then the mom says oh well, you have my, you have my retainer or you have, you know, you have, you know you've got my son's jersey, like that's where this technology is great, right.
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It really is, but if you wait until you go to your next game to determine that you left your glove at the rink.
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It's gone.
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You're in trouble.
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Now again, you know, even if you learn the play level, we tell you know, every learned to play kid gets the same email from me anytime they sign up.
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And it's that label, label, label.
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Everything has your name on your equipment.
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Everybody hears that, listening right Like cause.
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I didn't mention that.
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You're right.
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Label everything, everything.
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Again and I think it's just like inside the helmet.
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You know, put this just little, you know label labels, labels, or I'm a, you know, I don't know who.
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They're great, but whoever you go to get a late, get labels out there and label everything.
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So it's easier for us as coaches and rink personnel.
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Listen, I could tell you this if a rink personnel finds a glove and it says Dylan on it and you know with their last name, they're going to get that glove back.
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If it's just sitting there, it's going in the lost and found.
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Yeah or the trash.
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I've seen that have you been into a rink?
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Yeah, the lost and found.
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I don't know what that is sometimes, but I think this is so the cesspool of disease, mike, that's what it is.
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The very beginner level.
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The very beginner level, if you enable the ability, if you put your own Apple Air tag, you know in, you know with your tag, you know you put, you put some way in there to get that equipment back for somebody, you're going to get it back People just don't throw things out with people's names on it.
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If you just leave a glove, the right glove, and it's gone, now you're buying and again, at this age these are brand new pieces of equipment.
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This is not if I lose my right glove, it's from 1978.
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Right, I mean it's like, oh, thank God, he lost that glove Now again, but for these kids these are brand new pieces of equipment.
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Yeah, there's no reason to lose anything Now again.
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Like you said, if you forget something.
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Like you know, what I try to do with my kids is I try to get them in a place where you know when you take your stuff off, you know now what you don't have.
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Right, it's a good point, and then you're packing it, and you pack it as you get dressed.
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So if you let's go into the actionable items of what you're talking about no, because you're making really great points, so like things for the parents listening Cause, again, I just assume things sometimes that I don't realize, like that's just really good advice.
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So the first thing you said, mike, is that mentally, your kids should know how to get dressed and that's how you should pack your bag right.
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So like when, mike, this is how my kids did okay, I need my undergarments first, my Jack, my Jill, my duster armor, whatever I'm using.
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Okay.
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Then it's like okay, what do you get next?
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Okay, my shin guards know next, and then my socks and my pants, and you make a song.
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You're just like kids used to learn how to do all the states right, yeah, pack your bag, like you get dressed right and you can make a song.
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There's a lot of different things you can do, but just imagine yourself getting dressed.
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Okay, what do you do?
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I'll put my shin guards on.
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I'll put my socks on, then I put my whatever freezers on.
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Well, and the other thing was in unpacking.
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You're right, I forget.
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You know, people do just open the bag or dump it.
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Right, there should be a in my opinion, a place for everything.
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Right, your skates go here, your shins go here, your pants go here.
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Double check when you open your bag.
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Your jerseys get hung up.
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Don't leave them in the bag.
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It's disgusting, all right, and it's like.
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So you know.
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Like you said, you know right away, hey, I'm missing something.
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All right, that's part of accountability too.
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And like we're in a good place here with our coaching staffs, with my kids, like they do wait until everybody's out and check the locker room.
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I do that too.
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I'll just say, you know, like, okay, there was.
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You can tell the parents there was nothing in the locker room.
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It's just somebody has it right and the parents are pretty aware of that.
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But like I think that's the first actionable item is, make sure your kids know how to get dressed mentally, make sure they pack their bag that way and then make sure everything has a place.
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Now again, this one's kind of optional, what I'm about to say when I pack my own bag, my skates have a very specific spot.
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You know, my elbow is my show.
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Everything has a spot in the bag and it's not one of those organized bag.
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I just that's how I know where things go, because it's part of my routine.
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Now again, when you're seven, things just get thrown in the bag and I get that.
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But it's a process, right?
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And I think that in the kind of you mind is starting to develop the process and asking those questions Okay, did you check everything?
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When you can?
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Okay, cause it's incredible.
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And it's hard.
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It's hardly right.
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If you play lacrosse, like okay, everybody on this, everybody that listens to this, that plays lacrosse, knows you take your lacrosse stick, you throw your helmet on it, the gloves go on the stick and the shoulder pads go over that and the jersey goes over that.
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You go home Like so everything is on a stick.
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Like it's like you literally walk out and if you're a baseball player, your batting helmet goes on the glove, your batting gloves are in their helmet and your mitt goes over the bat.
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It's like so it's easy, but in hockey it's this bottomless pit of a bag.
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Well, I'll take it a step further, mike.
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It's like when I walk in the locker room and there's a yard sale going on cause my kid's equipment's all over everywhere, but the bag, I want to lose my mind.
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I'm like it's just not hard.
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Oh my God, I'm just like you can't.
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Not only that, can you just put your gloves here, your helmet here, you go to it?
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You go to it and I think the caller was alluding to like you look like in a professional locker room or a junior locker room.
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I mean, there are coaches that are so crazy.
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Like behind you, like it's like the helmet, the gloves, the shin guards, the elbow pads, everything's like if I go into your stall it looks like that guy's stall and that guy's stall.
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You know who loves that Military ass Trainers, you know cause equipment trainers the trainers do that yeah.
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Yeah, because they're like okay, I know every by looking at the snapshot of this person's locker.
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They have everything they need Right.
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And I think at the youngest levels, for our own sanity as parents, we can help our kids understand that if you're, if you're going into a locker room and dumping your bag out to get dressed, that to me is so anxiety provoking that I'm like yeah.
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On the same way.
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You can reach into your bag and just get what you need.
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Well, let's take it a step further now.
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Okay, so would you agree with me that, Adams and Mites, it's really more about now educating and getting them in a position to do this right?
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Like I've learned that it's very hard for them to do this on their own.
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Some kids do, some kids don't.
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I don't know they get dressed on their own Like I've seen kids somewhere hockey school at seven years old get dropped off at the gym.
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Well, my daughter, she gets dressed on her own.
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I mean, she needs help with her skates, but she can get dressed on her own.
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Again, it depends on the kid.
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But the point I'm making is this, just to answer Meg's question right, is that?
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I think Adams and Mites, you should not be fully ready yet for them to have that accountability.
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You need to be teaching them how to be accountable.
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Again, I'm not saying do everything for them.
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I'm saying you need to be educating them on how to do this Now.
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This leads me to the next thing.